Episode 23 – Great Business to Exclude All the Light

On today’s episode, we’ve got a heady answering machine question, an interview with Kim “Kimchi” Giannone, zine reviews, and a feature on Montana photographer (and patron saint of All Through a Lens) Evelyn Cameron.

After a bit of chit chat (Vania’s waves have been bad and Eric’s got two zines coming out), we get right to the answering machine question:

Do you have a camera that you don’t shoot with anymore, but that you just can’t part with?

The answers ran from the practical to the literal tear-jerking. Thank you to everyone who called in.

Let’s Call Kim!
Our interview this week is with Kim Giannone. Kim has been shooting film since forever, but find herself sliding towards digital. We talk about Montana, the old days, more Montana, current and future projects, and about maybe quitting photography altogether (no, thank you).

You can find Kim’s work on Instagram – @kgphotoface.

She is also trying to raise the money to buy a mercantile in Montana so she can run a general store as well as her photo studio. She’s selling her prints to fund it here.

And is some of Kim’s work:

Evelyn Cameron
We have been wanting to tell the story of Montana photographer Evelyn Cameron since before we even had a podcast.

The story of an unknown photographer who died leaving her incredibly important work to basically disappear into obscurity only to be re-discovered decades later might sound a little familiar, but we’re betting you’ve not heard this one before.

She was a (mostly) self-taught large format photographer from the late 1800s/early 1900s. After leaving her wealthy upbringing and moving to Montana with her new (and controversial) husband, she took to photography to make ends meet.

Nearly forgotten, her work was rediscovered in the 1970s. We dig into her life, her career, and how best to view her photos.

We also talk about a project we’d like to do, but pulling it off might prove a bit difficult.

Here are a few of Evelyn Cameron’s photos:

Zine Reviews
We also reviewed two zines:

Car Distancing by Ben Yount (@benyountdds)


Film & Foreigner Vol. 2 by Robert Burton (@elgatomagnifico)

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines, ECN-2 Kits

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Episode 22 – Terrifying Deathtraps of Awesome Fun

It’s been a minute, but we are back and wow are we chatty!

After a bit of catching up, we dive right into our answering machine question. This was an easy one:

Tell us about your summer photography.

It was last minute, but we got some great answers. Also, Eric rues the loss of his five-minute Bronica. We answer this ourselves as well.

We don’t normally do a lot of on-mic gear talking – except when we do. And we do. We took a slew-ish of cameras with us on this little photo excursion, and we will tell you all the hell about them.

Tired of that, we give a call to Anne Hollond (@annehollond). While in Kansas, we palled around with her for a few days (in a socially distant sort of way). It was amazing as we talk a lot about.

Here are a couple of our photos from Bison, Kansas:

Camera: Hasselblad 500C
Film: Ektar 100
Taken by Vania

Camera: Kodak Brownie No 2, Model D (1914)
Film: Kodak Tmax 400; x-08/2004
Process: Rodinal; 1+50; 12min
July 2020

For the “back half” of the episode, we go over the ins and outs, ups and downs of a long ass photo trip. We get sassy.

We wrap up the episode with a couple of zine reviews. First up was Haxes by 𝐉.𝐌 𝐀𝐥𝐦𝐪𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐭 (haexes). You can pick it up at Haexes.com.

Second, we looked at Wa/onderer #1 by Jaso Biehner (@jasonbiehner).

And finally, we announced the release of our zine: 6×7 – 6×7 is a zine celebrating the Mamiya RB67, perhaps the most perfect camera ever made (mileage may vary).

We each selected 30ish of our favorite photos and created a zine around them. This issue reflects the love and chaos, messiness and beauty that is film photography.

But this is not a mere photozine. The photos, still the central feature, are placed within two-page spreads made up of various related and unrelated bits and bobs.

It is available here.

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines, ECN-2 Kits

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Dev Party #15 – We’re Going to a Bad Dev Party, It’s the Worst Dev Party that’s Ever Been

On this episode of Dev Party, Vania stretches the limits of the ECN-2 (to breaking), while Eric discovers some mystery sheets that he shot at some point in the last year or so.

As you’ll hear, the ECN-2 kits are great, but they don’t last forever!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines, ECN-2 Kits

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Episode 18 – This is Pure Record, Not Propaganda

On this episode, we talk a new old emulsion, we ask (and hear) about your first film camera, we dig into a few Depression Era photographers, have some more good news, and give a call to Texas photographer Kat Swansey.

The New Old Emulsion: Fuzzy Pürrito!

Get It Here!

Following up fast on the heels of The Slow Meow, we’ve got another limited run of new old emulsion. This time it’s a rebranding of Svema MZ-3, another Soviet-era film that’s been kicking around for a few years.

If you want dreamy and soft photos with quite a bit of haloing in the highlights, Fuzzy Pürrito – FuzzPürr for short – is the emulsion for you!

Our batch of this emulsion shoots at 12iso. This might seem a little limiting, but on a Sunny 16 sort of day, you’d shoot this at 1/100th of a second with an aperture of f/5.6 – three stops slower than 100iso. So give it a shot – push yourself to try something new. We’re offering a 3 pack for a pretty affordable price.

And developing it is pretty easy too, but you’ll need HC-110. For the FuzzPurr, you’ll have to use Dilution H (1+62). Do this with normal agitation for 9 minutes and you’re good. This doesn’t do well in stand development. It might be tempting, but you’ll definitely get better results with this formula. And of course, it fixes as normal.

We have three-packs of this film for sale on Eric’s etsy store for $18. Each roll has at least 24 frames on it, though the way that Eric rolls, you’re more likely to get 30. And at $6 a roll, that isn’t too bad. You’ll also get a few stickers, postcards, and an All Through a Lens button.

Here are some sample shots:


Vania’s first film camera (destroyed by a fall from a horse).

For our answering machine question, we asked:
What was your first film camera?

And we got a ton of replies!

Hello, Kat!
For our interview, we give a call to Kat Swansey. She grew up in a small Texas town outside of Houston, but now calls Austin home. With her 35mm Canon, she explores her smalltown roots, capturing them in vivid color.

And here are a few more:

Depression-Era FSA Photography

We dig into the early FSA photographers and discuss a few of their photos.

The early days of the project brought together Dorothea Lange (who ran a very successful portrait studio in San Francisco), Arthur Rothstein (president of the Columbia University photography club, and star pupil of Stryker’s – at first he was just used to set up the darkroom, but he eventually picked up a camera), Walker Evans (a well-known documentary photographer and pal of Earnest Hemmingway), as well as Carl Mydans (a photojournalist for the Boston Globe) and Ben Shahn (Evan’s former roommate and a well-known painter – Evans was really pulling for him).

Here are the ones we cover:

Dorothea Lange – Toward Los Angeles, California

Arthur Rothstein – Heavy black clouds of dust rising over the Texas Panhandle, Texas

Walker Evans – Floyd Burroughs, Alabama Sharecropper

Carl Mydans – “Damned if we’ll work for what they pay folks hereabouts.” Crittenden County, Arkansas. Cotton workers on the road, carrying all they possess in the world.

Ben Shahn – Watching Football Game, Star City, West Virginia.

Much more information and many many more photos can be found here:



The photographers:

Most popular photographs:

More Good News
We finish off the episode with more good news from listeners! Thank you so much!

And that’s the show!

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines, ECN-2 Kits

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Episode 17 – The Ducks or Our Lives

On today’s episode Spring is in the air! We’re walking around our neighborhoods like Fred Herzog, we’re cleaning our springs like it’s spring cleaning, and we’re finding zines that we should have reviewed months ago. We’re doing a lot of things, okay? We’re also giving a call to Jana Obscura!

After Eric and Vania check in on each other, they check the answering machine for some good news.

For this episode there wasn’t a question – there was just a plea: Tell us your good (film photography related) news. The calls came in and we were of good cheer!

Walkin’ Talkin’ Fred Herzog!
More and more we’re picking out a photographer for a bit of inspiration. This episode, we look at a few Kodachrome photos taken by Fred Herzog in Vancouver. He had been shooting since the 50s, but got his first show in 2007.

Since many of us have been only getting out of the house for walks, we thought it would be a fine time to take a look at a photographer who was mostly known for just that. Fred Herzog from Vancouver, British Columbia, would take nearly the same route through the city every day.

Through much of the 1950s and 60s Herzog tramped the streets after work and on weekends with a Kodak Retina on his hip. He had been given a large format plate camera when he was young, but tossed it for the small 35mm.

The body of work he produced is extraordinary. At this point in photographic history, color was seen as sort of cheap and gimmicky. Fine art photographers as well as street photographers used black & white almost exclusively. Despite the tradition, Herzog fell in love with color. And not just any color, but the uncanny, vivid tones of Kodak’s Kodachrome.

His photo “Paris Cafe” from 1959 features a man looking out of a cafe window. He’s framed by Christmas decorations and menus. Of this, Herzog later said, “The man in that picture looks somewhat disengaged, but I like the Santa Clauses and I like the price list of food.”

This is a simple enough explanation. He likes these things. But he went on: “The whole atmosphere is somewhat in contradiction with the high-flying name Paris Café. And I like that kind of inherent contradiction in many of my pictures. Every picture, I’ve sometimes said, has a curve ball in it. They’re not just pictures of pretty scenes. They’re pictures that have a curve ball in them which makes you think.”

You can find more of his work here.
We also suggest the book Modern Color, which you can find here.

Let’s Call Jana!

Jana Obscura (@jana_obscura on IG) grew up in Honolulu and now lives in Seattle, and shoots a ridiculous array of cameras, and is mostly known for her instant and pinhole work. She’s also bok-choy’s biggest fan.

We talk to her about her cameras, her walks around Seattle, laundromats, how she’s dealing with the whole plague days thing, and plans for a possible zine.

Here are a few photos by Jana:

Spring Freakin Cleaning!

It’s technically spring and usually that means cleaning up the cobwebs, tossing and donating things you don’t use anymore and just giving your home a solid deep clean and maybe sanitizing in the more recent times.

We thought it would be fun to talk about this whole spring cleaning jazz and how it pertains to photography. We’ll talking not just cleaning, but exercising your cameras. But we’ll also talk about storing your gear and maybe talk you into getting rid of stuff you no longer use. Oh, and we ramble on a bit about film.

We mentioned a page written by a fellow with a lot of love for camera storage. Here it is.

Zine Reviews

Vania reviewed O’ahu by Dave Brotchie – a half size 54 page black and white semi glossy zine. This is a collection of images he took from the 8 years he called Hawaii home.

Dave expresses how much he misses living on this wonderful island and plans to make it back someday.

You can get a copy via @aloha_dave on Instagram

Meanwhile, Eric reviewed Sam Warner’s Finding the Grain. It’s a glossy 8×8 b&w zine of some really lovely shots. With each, he gives a bit of the story behind the photo, as well as the camera, emulsion and developer he used to bring it into life. These are mostly 35mm, though he’s got a shot with the Pho-Tak Traveler 120.

His choice in subjects is as varied as his choice of film and cameras, and I find this to be a really good thing. With this, you’ve got yourself a very diverse zine. There’s street, architecture, some wildlife and even macro – lots of flowers, which makes Vania really happy (she’s got a thing for men taking photos of flowers).

You can pick it up from Sam on IG: @unrecoveringphotographyaddict
Sam’s website: https://www.theunrecoveringphotographyaddict.com/

And we’ll see you next week!

And that’s the show!

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Dev Party #9 – Dev Party Out of Bounds

We’re doing something a bit different this session of Dev Party – we’re stand developing color! What’s that, you say? Is that even a thing? Well it is. Sort of.

First, stand developing usually (always?) means diluted developer and longer times with zero-ish agitation. For instance, a lot of folks stand develop with Rodinal, mixing it 1+100 and letting the film stand in it for an hour.

This isn’t what we’re doing here. And yet, it’s called Color Stand Developing for some reason.

In this episode, Vania “stand” develops a color roll in C-41, while Eric does one in ECN-2 (the developer used for motion picture film).

In both cases, the used the regular dilution at 68F (20C). After pouring it into the tank, we agitated for a minute then let it stand for 45mins (rather than an hour). This was based on what most folks seemed to do.

When it came to Bleach/Fix/Blix, many people were doing them at around 45 minutes each. After digging into the science of it, we decided that it was unnecessary. Vania Blixed for the typically-recommended amount of time, and Eric did the same for the Bleach and Fixer.

But how did it all turn out?

While Vania liked her results, Eric was a bit unimpressed.

For him, this was part of a larger test to see how Fuji Color 200 would react to normal and stand development at various ISOs. He shot identical scenes in two rolls, metering for 25ISO up to 1600ISO. The results between the regular and stand aren’t incredibly surprising. The surprise came from just how well you can pull C200!

Take a look:

Episode 014 – Hang That Camera About My Neck

It’s March! So that means – among other things – Girl Scout Cookies! We’ve got a deep dive into the history of the Girl Scouts and photography! We’ll also give a call to Kate Miller Wilson (you might know her from her static electricity photos). There’s some news, some zine reviews!

But first, we check in with what we’ve been up to over the past week or so (give or take). While Vania was sick again and moaned about a crappy surf-winter, Eric did some shooting up at an abandoned dairy farm that used to be run by the Northern State Mental Hospital.

After a mention of the Reveni light meter, we move swiftly to this episode’s answering machine question.

Is the camera and lens combination you choose as important as the the film you choose?

We heard from a slew of listeners with a wide variety of answers, and we also gave our own opinions on the matter.

For our interview, we gave a call to Kate Miller Wilson (@katemillerwilson on IG), a large format photographer who has taken some amazingly moving photos of her children. Lately, she’s made some waves with her static electricity shots. We ask her about both, and she has quite a bit to say.

As a main feature, we run through the history of film photography and the Girl Scouts. From the very beginning, they offered merit badges for accomplishments in photography.

We take a look at the requirements, the officially-branded cameras, as well as some of the novels that feature scouts using cameras.

After a cookie break or two, we hop into zine reviews. Vania covers Thirteen Seconds by Ian Turpin (@ian_ctee on IG). Meanwhile, Eric looks at Periapsides by Jason Conklin (@ninlyone on IG).

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Episode 013 – Absolutely (Say It Again)

On this episode, we’ve got tips from listeners, a call with Iowa Amy, how to do your own tri-chromes, we’ll talk about a couple of pictures we took, there’s zine reviews and so much more.

We first check in with each other. Vania is looking for inspiration, but realizes it’s been there all along. Eric just wanted some snow. Sort of. Vania talks about how the camera is her way of interacting, while Eric realizes that he’s getting old.

Those who bought the Slow Meow film are thanked, and those interested in the ECN-2 process are invited to find out via the kits Eric is making: Here.

Moving on once more to the answering machine, we asked listeners to call in with their film photography tips. Just one, and make it quick.

The response was great! We received such advice as “don’t be afraid” and “every frame is a lesson” to the practical advice like “throw away the lens cap” and “get an immersion heater.” It was a lovely mix. Thanks to all who called in!

Vania and Eric gave their own tips as well. Obviously.

We then gave a call to Amy Blessing. You might know her as @iowaamy on IG. She was in the first American Colors show in St. Louis and is working on a project and book documenting towns along the Mississippi River in Iowa.

If you’re not familiar with her work, it explores the empty spaces of smalltown, Midwestern life. While many will often overlook this part of the country, Amy and her photography embody it.

We talked to her about her rural work, and shooting in the Midwest in general.

DIY Tri-Chromes!
After the call, we dig into how to shoot your own tri-chromes! These are the color photos that are actually created by three black & white photos layered together.

Here’s a quick rundown:

First, you’ll need some panchromatic black and white film. Let’s just use Tri-X or T-Max or basically anything that isn’t Ortho. Something fast works best. Get yourself a camera, a tripod and a red, green and blue filter. These can be cheaply procured in a color filter set, or more expensively procured individually as filters with the Wratten numbers of 29, 61, and 47 (red, green and blue).

Find a subject – something with various colors represented. Set up the camera on the tripod and take three photos – the first through the red filter, the second through the green, and the last through the blue. I do them in this order so I can remember them when it comes time to scan. Make sure to not move the camera even a little. You want three identical pictures.and you will be needing to line this up in photoshop.

Develop the film in your favorite black & white developer, and then scan them in as normal. It would be a good idea to name them as “red,” “green,” and “blue” just so you can keep track of them.

Then open the images in your photo editor and align them to each other so that they’re all perfectly matched. Starting with the red layer, you want to “colorize” it. Open the colorize menu (the location varies) and tint it red. This “hue” is usually represented by “0” on the color wheel. Then set saturation to 75 and brightness to -30.

Do the same with the Green and Blue layers – setting the hue to 120 and 240, respectively (on some editor, it’s 33 and 66). The saturation and brightness are the same as with the red.

Now we’re almost finished. All we have to do is make them transparent. In the Layers panel, we need to set this to “Screen” for the top two laters and “Normal” for the bottom (at this point, it doesn’t matter which layer is where). Once we do this, the color image will appear!

Next on the episode, we take a look at two of our photos, both from the Fuck Yeah We Do zine.

Eric chose this:

While Vania chose this:

Both go on about it for a spell.

Zine Reviews
On this episode, we reviewed two zines. The first was Camerastickers by Ethan Cameradactyl.

In Ethan’s own words: ‘They are the lowest quality prints you’ve ever seen in a zine, and the binding is even worse. The books are bound to fall apart, and the stickers are all thermal, which is basically the opposite of archival. But they’re pretty fun. I think you and Vania and most of your listeners would probably get a real kick out of them.’

The other zine was Every Bus Stop Has Its Own Coffee Shop by Richard Hall. This is a color and black & white halfsize zine that’s really a lovely stroll through Shrewsbury.

Along the way, we stop to hear him point out bits of history and information. There’s the Welsh Bridge, The Buttermarket (aka Butters), and Shrewsbury Abbey. But this isn’t simply one tour. This zine takes place over the entire year, night and day. There’s the evening life in the market, and a morning commute up St. John’s Hill. We wind our way through the streets, and along the river until finally returning to the Porthill Footbridge.

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Dev Party #5 – Life of the Dev Party

For this episode of Dev Party, we’re taking on ECN-2! This is the color process usually used for motion picture film. But can it also be used for regular color film? Yes, absolutely.

Eric has done this for years, and Vania is dipping her toes.

We talk about the process itself, and especially about how it differs from C-41. There’s a very brief history of it, some short explanation of what it is, as well as some mention of stop baths and washing.

Future Eric and Vania also take a look at the scans they’ve made with the negs (which means there was great success!).

Here are a two from Vania…

And two from Eric…

Eric also talked about why he first started using ECN-2 on the regular. It had a lot to do with Vericolor III. Here’s a shot he devved in C-41…

And one he soon after did with ECN-2…

Get Some!
They also talk about making up kits to sell for cheapish. You can find that link here.

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines

All Through a Lens: IG, Website

Episode 012 – The Colors or Some Shadow or Something

On this episode, Vania and Eric talk shooting with people (or not), we’ll call up a very special guest, and dig into color photography before the invention of color film. We’ll also finish up our trilogy on zine making. Plus zine reviews and the announcement of a “new” old stock emulsion.

But first, Vania’s been sick (though it’s not the annoying and mild Man-Flu). Still, she managed to do some shooting. She even surfed with a gray whale. Eric also shot some 4×5 and with the 6×7 back to varying degrees of amusement.

Before getting into the thick of the show, we announce The Slow Meow – a slow speed Soviet-era microfilm (Tasma Mikrat 200) that they’ve teased for literally months now. It’s for sale via Eric’s Etsy Store and all proceeds go to help funding the podcast.

Moving on to the answering machine, we asked listeners to call in about whether they like to shoot by themselves or with other people. A dozen or so called in and we couldn’t say no to any of them. Their answers varied, of course, but most folks diplomatically split the difference. Wise decision – you never know who’s listening. Vania and Eric also weigh in.

We then give a call to Marley! You may know her from Vania’s stories, but now she’s here! It’s Vania’s 12 year old, film (and digital) shooting daughter. She weighs in on how the kids see film, social media, and what it’s like to grow up with a mom shooting film when the other kids moms just have iPhones.

For the back half of the episode, we switch gears and dive back into history. There were color photos before the invention of color film. How? Well, it’s a complicated story that we try to distill. It’s a tale of that takes us from “I know we can do this, so why can’t we do this?” to “We did this… but how?” Riveting stuff!

We then finish our trilogy on zine-making by talking about printers and selling (and trading) zines. Also about adding personal touches.

Lastlyish, it’s zine reviews. Vania reviews the new zine of Aerochrome shots by Kikie Wilkins in Views From Tuscon, Issue 3. And Eric takes on Mark O’Brien‘s Monochrome Mania – a journal all about low ISO film; how to find, shoot and develop it.

And speaking of zines, Eric was a part of Frozen Wasteland’s KODAK GPX 160 compilation zine. The goal of this zine is to showcase and celebrate how different photographers obtain wildly different results and display totally disparate subjects, via processing, composition, and equipment choice, given the same starting medium. It’s full color, 80 pages, and features over a dozen photographers. Pick it up!

Be sure to check out our Dev Party episodes. They’re about to get even more pee-inducing!

Music by Last Regiment of Syncopated Drummers

Vania: IG, Flickr, Zines
Eric: IG, Flickr, Zines

All Through a Lens: IG, Website